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		<title>By: R. B.</title>
		<link>http://www.hrbenefitsalert.com/employee-privacy-vs-wellness/comment-page-1/#comment-1352</link>
		<dc:creator>R. B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 20:27:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When compassion and cost come head-to-head, compassion loses.  I&#039;ve been in HR for over 20 years and have reported directly to business owners or CEO&#039;s / presidents during most of that time.  Most like to think they are caring individuals, but when it costs them money, the care and compassion vanish.  Even trying to promote a more balanced thought process is difficult.  For this reason, I don&#039;t think its a good idea to have access to individual employee health data.

Costs continue to rise and I know this has to be managed.  However, people have ALWAYS gotten sick and have used their insurance, if available, so USING the insurance is not necessarily the issue.  It&#039;s the cost of various procedures, some of which weren&#039;t available in the past and which are very expensive.  I don&#039;t think the problem is so much the employee as it is the medical field and the insurance industry.  I do believe promoting wellness (preventative care) is positive, is less expensive in the long run and for that reason, I applaud wellness efforts that aren&#039;t punitive.  Penalizing an employee for needing health care just doesn&#039;t seem like the answer to me.  I wish I had a solution...it&#039;s a very complex issue with many sides and variables.  I&#039;m certainly not qualified or smart enough to fix the problem.  It&#039;s going to take a major overhaul and in the meantime, those of us who have access to this kind of privileged information need to be very careful as to how we use it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When compassion and cost come head-to-head, compassion loses.  I&#8217;ve been in HR for over 20 years and have reported directly to business owners or CEO&#8217;s / presidents during most of that time.  Most like to think they are caring individuals, but when it costs them money, the care and compassion vanish.  Even trying to promote a more balanced thought process is difficult.  For this reason, I don&#8217;t think its a good idea to have access to individual employee health data.</p>
<p>Costs continue to rise and I know this has to be managed.  However, people have ALWAYS gotten sick and have used their insurance, if available, so USING the insurance is not necessarily the issue.  It&#8217;s the cost of various procedures, some of which weren&#8217;t available in the past and which are very expensive.  I don&#8217;t think the problem is so much the employee as it is the medical field and the insurance industry.  I do believe promoting wellness (preventative care) is positive, is less expensive in the long run and for that reason, I applaud wellness efforts that aren&#8217;t punitive.  Penalizing an employee for needing health care just doesn&#8217;t seem like the answer to me.  I wish I had a solution&#8230;it&#8217;s a very complex issue with many sides and variables.  I&#8217;m certainly not qualified or smart enough to fix the problem.  It&#8217;s going to take a major overhaul and in the meantime, those of us who have access to this kind of privileged information need to be very careful as to how we use it.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://www.hrbenefitsalert.com/employee-privacy-vs-wellness/comment-page-1/#comment-1334</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 01:51:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having been on the HR side, and dealing with insurance cost factors, I understand the complexities of making those decisions.  From the employee side, I am one of those individuals who now must take maintenance medicine (probably for the rest of my life), plus semi-annual checkups, and have to consider what the employer must do to keep their healthcare costs down.  Truly, it is a double-edged sword.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having been on the HR side, and dealing with insurance cost factors, I understand the complexities of making those decisions.  From the employee side, I am one of those individuals who now must take maintenance medicine (probably for the rest of my life), plus semi-annual checkups, and have to consider what the employer must do to keep their healthcare costs down.  Truly, it is a double-edged sword.</p>
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		<title>By: Cy</title>
		<link>http://www.hrbenefitsalert.com/employee-privacy-vs-wellness/comment-page-1/#comment-1333</link>
		<dc:creator>Cy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 19:05:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s all get real here!

It may not matter to Gaylord to be Gay and Ignorance is Bliss, but as RH says; it may not always be easy to overlook it when making decisions.

If the company wants or has to save money in its health plan, I am confident that it will look at how to cut those costs with those employees.  HIPPA&#039;s privacy was suppose to protect employees.  Now there is a loophole.  That loophole has always been there, and only the truly savy knew about it till now.

So, if the employer can look to your person medical records, they can and will terminate you regardless if you are a good Gay or a bad Gay, a good diabetic or a bad diabetic.  It hogwash to think, that there is any caring whether or not you are in a diabetic program.  Get real.

Just another way to subject employees to behind the scene harrasment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s all get real here!</p>
<p>It may not matter to Gaylord to be Gay and Ignorance is Bliss, but as RH says; it may not always be easy to overlook it when making decisions.</p>
<p>If the company wants or has to save money in its health plan, I am confident that it will look at how to cut those costs with those employees.  HIPPA&#8217;s privacy was suppose to protect employees.  Now there is a loophole.  That loophole has always been there, and only the truly savy knew about it till now.</p>
<p>So, if the employer can look to your person medical records, they can and will terminate you regardless if you are a good Gay or a bad Gay, a good diabetic or a bad diabetic.  It hogwash to think, that there is any caring whether or not you are in a diabetic program.  Get real.</p>
<p>Just another way to subject employees to behind the scene harrasment.</p>
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		<title>By: RH</title>
		<link>http://www.hrbenefitsalert.com/employee-privacy-vs-wellness/comment-page-1/#comment-1321</link>
		<dc:creator>RH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 21:58:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to agree ignorance is bliss and if you knew something negative on an employee it may not always be easy to overlook it when making decisions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to agree ignorance is bliss and if you knew something negative on an employee it may not always be easy to overlook it when making decisions.</p>
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		<title>By: Gaylord</title>
		<link>http://www.hrbenefitsalert.com/employee-privacy-vs-wellness/comment-page-1/#comment-1320</link>
		<dc:creator>Gaylord</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 21:50:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Kraut, 

You say that the possibility of being &quot;misbranded as gay and having repurcussions as a result.&quot;  Where do you live, in a RED State?  Where I work, being gay is a GOOD thing.  

We&#039;ve got to get over this BACKWARD thinking people!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Kraut, </p>
<p>You say that the possibility of being &#8220;misbranded as gay and having repurcussions as a result.&#8221;  Where do you live, in a RED State?  Where I work, being gay is a GOOD thing.  </p>
<p>We&#8217;ve got to get over this BACKWARD thinking people!</p>
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		<title>By: Dora</title>
		<link>http://www.hrbenefitsalert.com/employee-privacy-vs-wellness/comment-page-1/#comment-1319</link>
		<dc:creator>Dora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 21:48:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We are just starting a wellness program, and at this time NOT offering any incentives.  We&#039;re planning group activities that the company will assist with payment.  Do we have to worry about HIPPA or any other privacy acts?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are just starting a wellness program, and at this time NOT offering any incentives.  We&#8217;re planning group activities that the company will assist with payment.  Do we have to worry about HIPPA or any other privacy acts?</p>
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		<title>By: Larry</title>
		<link>http://www.hrbenefitsalert.com/employee-privacy-vs-wellness/comment-page-1/#comment-1313</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 21:01:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ignorance may be bliss, but with costs going up, I think it is valuable to know certain things.  The law is pretty clear, if you use the info to make an employment decision, then you are in violation.  I would like to be able to get employees into a diabetic program if possible.  It is far cheaper to manage diabetes than it would be to have someone go into a diabetic shock episode.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ignorance may be bliss, but with costs going up, I think it is valuable to know certain things.  The law is pretty clear, if you use the info to make an employment decision, then you are in violation.  I would like to be able to get employees into a diabetic program if possible.  It is far cheaper to manage diabetes than it would be to have someone go into a diabetic shock episode.</p>
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		<title>By: Tere</title>
		<link>http://www.hrbenefitsalert.com/employee-privacy-vs-wellness/comment-page-1/#comment-1310</link>
		<dc:creator>Tere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 19:38:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would prefer not to know personal health information also.  Many of our employees feel comfortable talking with HR and at times we must ask them to refrain.  As mentioned, if it isn&#039;t necessary for FMLA or ADA, I don&#039;t want to know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would prefer not to know personal health information also.  Many of our employees feel comfortable talking with HR and at times we must ask them to refrain.  As mentioned, if it isn&#8217;t necessary for FMLA or ADA, I don&#8217;t want to know.</p>
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		<title>By: Maggie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maggie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 19:12:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t want to know any personal health information.  When insurance renewal comes up and I have to complete the forms for insurance carriers, I must give them health information on our employees.  If I don&#039;t have the information, I can&#039;t report it.  I only report those health conditions that I am aware of.  In this case, ignorance is bliss.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t want to know any personal health information.  When insurance renewal comes up and I have to complete the forms for insurance carriers, I must give them health information on our employees.  If I don&#8217;t have the information, I can&#8217;t report it.  I only report those health conditions that I am aware of.  In this case, ignorance is bliss.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeffrey Kraut</title>
		<link>http://www.hrbenefitsalert.com/employee-privacy-vs-wellness/comment-page-1/#comment-1305</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeffrey Kraut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 18:26:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its too bad that employers can&#039;t get this information without identifying the specific party.  If they then determine any of the issues discussed in the article, only then should they be able to find out the person&#039;s name.  Just imagine an employer determining that an employee is being treated for HIV.  It may be due to the employee being homosexual or because he was infected by someone not practicing safe sex.  Regardless of the law, it would be hard to convince me that there wouldn&#039;t be a strong possiblity of being misbranded as gay and having repurcussions as a result.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its too bad that employers can&#8217;t get this information without identifying the specific party.  If they then determine any of the issues discussed in the article, only then should they be able to find out the person&#8217;s name.  Just imagine an employer determining that an employee is being treated for HIV.  It may be due to the employee being homosexual or because he was infected by someone not practicing safe sex.  Regardless of the law, it would be hard to convince me that there wouldn&#8217;t be a strong possiblity of being misbranded as gay and having repurcussions as a result.</p>
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