Comments on: Darker side: Bring your guns to work

By: Greenday

Greenday — Mon, 13 Oct 2008 01:02:15 +0000

Keith,
The fact – not based on your theories, emotions, or “what-ifs” – is that CWP holders are statistically very unlikely to commit crimes – ESPECIALLY with firearms. Most of us are fastidiously law-abiding citizens. We understand that an infraction may endanger our ability to keep that CWP permit and that a felony will definitely get it revoked. We have not paid $200, gone through a class and done all the paperwork just to lose that permit on a crazy whim.

Incredibly, in spite of all the nonsense rhetoric, it seems that adults most often choose to think rationally and logically, even when angry. I’ve gotten pissed off at people before. Who hasn’t? I would never think of even reaching for my firearm when angry though, because that’s not what it’s for. I’d be far more likely to reach for my phone and call someone to complain, if possible.

Your “no weapons” policy can and will be ignored by anyone who wants to bring a gun with them. Are you going to search every car that comes into the lot? Do you really want to be in a big room with one angry lunatic who brought a gun despite your unpersuasive signs, and all of the other unarmed people are running for their lives? At that point, you might be wishing you’d have carried yourself.

By: Keith F

Keith F — Mon, 29 Sep 2008 15:22:34 +0000

The problem is balancing employee’s Constitutional rights to bear arms with employer’s rights over their property. If a (now-fired) non-employee can come into the building easily with a weapon, then there appears to be a security issue, regardless if employees can carry weapons in their locked vehicles.

If an employee can’t park his/her vehicle on company property with a weapon locked inside, then this effectively prevents the employee from bringing the weapon in their vehicle at all (even when not on company property) if they are on their way to/from work.

Perhaps some middle ground can exist such as separate parking areas for those who wish to keep weapons locked in their vehicles, etc. Another option might be to require those who carry weapons to check them in, unloaded, with the security guard, etc. Of course there will be problems with solutions like these, but hopefully some smart people will figure out the details to balance everybody’s rights and responsibilities.

By: Keith

Keith — Fri, 26 Sep 2008 19:32:18 +0000

The writers of this law have obviously never had to fire a disgruntled employee in the world of manufacturing. There is no cooling down period. A disgruntled employee can go right to their car and get a firearm. I would feel much safer having a no weapons (including firearms) policy for my company’s property…this does, essentially, decrease the chance of someone going to their car to get a gun to “blow someone’s brains out” in my facility.

By: Merv

Merv — Fri, 26 Sep 2008 13:00:46 +0000

I as a male also carry the potential of rape with me (inside the building,consealed of course). We need to be able to make choices and receive the conseqences for our choices whether they are good or bad. Just because we have the potential for rape doesn’t mean we exercise that very awful choice.

By: Dale

Dale — Fri, 26 Sep 2008 12:27:48 +0000

The right to keep and bear arms is a fundamental constitutional right; neither OSHA, nor any other regulatory body has any authority to infringe that right.

The irony of this issue is that the bad guys dont care what’s legal…they will have guns anyway. Gun bans only disarm the law abiding, and leave us all defenseless.

By: Cindy

Cindy — Thu, 25 Sep 2008 21:35:10 +0000

I agree with Capt Crunch & Larry…this is the brighter side. If you ban guns from law abiding citizens, then only the criminals will have guns. And they’re the ones who commit the crimes and will do so no matter what the law is. That’s why they’re called criminals!

By: Wanda

Wanda — Thu, 25 Sep 2008 20:15:49 +0000

If you can legally carry or store a weapon in your vehicle or on your person, this is an American right. Just think of all those who carry illigally….We need to be able to carry if we “can” and keep gun control out of it.

By: Larry

Larry — Thu, 25 Sep 2008 19:38:17 +0000

To Katie and Maggie – read the law – don’t base your thinking on emotion. The law allows only those who possess a CCP (Concealed Carry Permit) to bring the weapons. These people have been screened by law enforcement, fingerprinted, etc. to be authorized to carry guns. Only the crooks who haven’t been thru the process may not carry weapons to work – but wait, they do that now anyhow. Get a grip, in states where the right to carry is permitted, gun crime has gone down considerably.
BTW -what the hell does it matter if a maid cleaning my room has a loaded glock (sic) in her car?

By: Maggie

Maggie — Thu, 25 Sep 2008 18:50:47 +0000

This Forida court is the one not rational. Since when did the NRA supersede OSHA? Or my constitutional rights as a property owner. This is a good reason not to vacation in Florida. The maid cleaning your room could have a loaded glock in her car. No wonder the Florida Chamber of Commerce is fighting this.

By: Katie

Katie — Thu, 25 Sep 2008 18:49:33 +0000

Well after a few judges and legislators get gunned down the law will change.